Crye-Cry
Family Newsletter
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July 2002
“SUMMER”
| Welcome to the newsletter for July/August/September
of 2002. I am working toward getting my act together with research
and finding data to share with each of you. The information that
was once readily available is now scratching and digging diligently to
be found. Many trips and many hours on the Internet to obtain a small
amount of data at times seems the only way to find something to share with
everyone. I am amazed at how like panning for gold this is.
I have a friend who goes into the Tennessee mountains and still pans for
gold, finding dust mostly. However, even dust accumulates into nuggets
at times. This is my goal too, to find dusty trails that lead to
nuggets of information on our family and extended lines.
At this time we are still in the mountains of East Tennessee near Townsend. I have found many of our relatives here, but haven’t been able to talk with them much. It appears most everyone in Blount County has descended from a brother of my ancestor John. There is much speculation here that John is part Indian or married into Indian bloodline. I am having no luck proving or disproving the theories, but I am enjoying searching around. I have received notice that some that attended the reunion in Cleveland in 2001 have already met an untimely end. We are saddened to know of family losses. The more we loose, the more we have lost. Please take the time to pass on your heritage, it is important in this day of fast media coverage and multi-tasking. Take the time to share. This is the only way for the memories to continue. I have gotten the photos cleaned up and
almost ready for mailing, but I am still trying to correctly name the people
and their lineage. I have submitted the photos for help from some
who attended the reunion, so I hope that task will be accomplished soon.
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Words you might find in documents while tracing family lines (continued from previous issue) |
| SON-IN-LAW | - Husband of one's daughter. |
| SPINSTER | - A woman still unmarried; or one who spins. |
| SPONSOR | - .A bondsman; surety |
| SPOUSE | - Husband or wife |
| STATUTE | - Law. |
| STEP-BROTHER / STEP-SISTER. | - Child of one's step-father or step-mother |
| STEP-CHILD. | - Child of one's husband or wife from a previous marriage |
| STEP-FATHER. | - Husband of one's mother by a later marriage |
| STEP-MOTHER | - Wife of one's father by a later marriage. |
| SURNAME | - Family name or last name. |
| TERRITORY | - Area of land owned by the United States, not a state, but having its own legislature and governor. |
| TESTAMENTARY | - Pertaining to a will. |
| TESTATE | - A person who dies leaving a valid will. |
| TESTATOR | - A person who makes a valid will before his death. |
| TITHABLE | - Taxable. |
| TITHE | - Formerly, money due as a tax for support of the clergy or church. |
| TORY | - Loyalist; one who supported the British side in the American Revolution. |
| TOWNSHIP | - A division of U.S. public land that contained 36 sections, or 36 square miles. Also a subdivision of the county in many Northeastern and Midwestern states of the U.S. |
| TRADITION | - The handing down of statements, beliefs, legends, customs, genealogies, etc. from generation to generation, especially by word of mouth. |
| TRANSCRIBE | - To make a copy in writing. |
| ULTIMO | - In the month before this one. |
| UNION | - The United States; also the North during the Civil War, the states which did not secede. |
| VERBATIM | - Word for word; in the same words, verbally. |
| VITAL RECORDS | - Records of birth, death, marriage or divorce. |
| VITAL STATISTICS | - Data dealing with birth, death, marriage or divorce. |
| WAR BETWEEN THE STATES | - U.S. Civil War, 1861 - 1865. |
| WARD | - Chiefly the division of a city for election purposes. |
| WILL | - Document declaring how a person wants his property divided after his death. |
| WITNESS | - One who is present at a transaction, such as a sale of land or signing of a will, who can testify or affirm that it actually took place. |
| WPA HISTORICAL RECORDS SURVEY | - A program undertaken by the US Government 1935 - 1936 in which inventories were compiled of historical material. |
| YEOMAN | - A servant, an attendant or subordinate official in a royal household; a subordinate of a sheriff; an independent farmer. |
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This John Shimmon Crye is the grandson of John Crye and Catherine Margaret Shimmon, son of John Alexander and Martha Jones Crye of Blount County Tennessee. John Alexander was a brother to William Crye who married Sarah Hagins. (my personal line) John Shimmon Crye, apparently named after his mother’s side of the family, does not show a register on joining the Civil War. According to the following family lore, he was waiting for an unborn son to arrive and had delayed joining. John Shimmon was written about in the August 1998 issue of the Crye/Cry Family Newsletter, Issue 3; Volume 1. Here is an excerpt from “Memories from Uncle Frank” The Civil War was at a white heat in 1863. Grandpa Shimmon hadn’t yet enlisted. He was still around home waiting for his third child to be born, John Riley Crye, my father. He was born July 13, 1863. In October, grandpa and two other friends of his were persuaded to go with these strangers who wanted also to enlist. Grandpa Shimmon Crye was 33 years old when he was martyred. That is what is says on his tombstone. “Martyred”. In a book entitled “The Churches of Blount
County on page 113 there is this record. There is a story that
an unknown man killed on the Great WarPath was the first burial, also a
man named George Best and his brother-in-law Simeon Crye were “bushwhacked”
at Tomotley Ford during the Civil War and were buried here. (Williamson
Methodist Church Cemetery).
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| Samuel Crye 33rd Inft CO. B, Illinois
I have applied to Washington for the records of a Samuel Crye, who fought from the state of Illinois, 33rd Inf. Co. B. However, no records were found. He is listed in the record books, but nothing showed up in the pension files. The following is an account of the regiment he served in. UNION ILLINOIS VOLUNTEERS o Organized at Camp Butler, IL, and mustered in September 3, 1861. o Moved to Ironton, MO, September 20, 1861. o Attached to Department of Missouri to March 1862. o 2nd Brigade, Steele's Army of Southeast Missouri, to May 1862. o 1st Division, Army of Southwest Missouri, to July 1862. o 1st Division, District of Eastern Arkansas, Dept. of Missouri, to November 1862. o 1st Brigade, 1st Division, Army of Southeast Missouri, to March 1863. o 1st Brigade, 14th Division, 13th Army Corps, Dept. of the Tennessee, to July, 1863. o 1st Brigade, 1st Division, 13th Army Corps, Dept. of the Tennessee, to August 1863, and Dept. of the Gulf, to June, 1864. o District of LaFourche, Dept. of the Gulf, to February 1865. o 1st Brigade, October 12-25, 1861. o Skirmish at Big River Bridge, near Potosi, October 15. o Action at Fredericktown October 21. o Moved to Reeve's Station March 3, 1862. o Steele's Expedition to White River, AR, March 23-May 10. o March to Batesville, AR, April 5-May 3, t o Hence to 1st Division, 16th Army Corps, Military Division West Mississippi, to June 1865. o Dept. of Mississippi, to November 1865. SERVICE: o Expedition to Fredericktown, MO, Helena, AR, May 25-July 14. o Action at Hill's Plantation, Cache River, July 7. o Duty at and near Helena, AR, till September 1, participating in numerous expeditions. o Action at Totten's Plantation August 2. o Prentiss and Bolivar September 24. o Friar's Point September 28. o Moved to Pilot Knob, MO, thence to Van Buren, AR, November 15. o Campaign in Southeast Missouri December 1862, to March 1863. o Ordered to St. Genevieve March 5, and thence to Milliken's Bend, LA. Duty there till April 25. o Movement on Bruinsburg and turning Grand Gulf April 25-30. o Battle of Port Gibson May 1. o Battle of Champion's Hill, MS., May 16. o Big Black River Bridge May 17. o Siege of Vicksburg, MS, May 18-July 4. o Assaults on Vicksburg May 19 and 22. o Surrender of Vicksburg July 4. o Advance on Jackson, MS, July 5-10. o Siege of Jackson July 10-17. o Duty at Vicksburg till August 20. o Ordered to New Orleans, LA, August 20. o Duty at Carrollton, Brashear City and Berwick till October. o Western Louisiana Campaign October 3-November 10. o Ordered to New Orleans, LA November 10, thence to Texas November 12. o Capture of Mustang Island, Matagorda Bay, November 17. o Fort Esperanza November 27-30. o Duty at Indianola and Lavacca, TX till March 1864. o Veterans on furlough March and April. o Moved to New Orleans, LA, April 18-29, thence to Brashear City May 17, and duty there and in the District of LaFourche, till February, 1865. o Companies "F," "C" and "K," at Bayou Boeuf; Company "I" at Bayou L'Ours; Companies "A" and "D" at Tigerville; Company "G" at Chacahoula; Company "E" at Terre Bonne; Company "B" at Bayou LaFourche, and Bayou des Allemands; Company "H" at Boutte, till March, 1865. o Non-Veterans moved north in charge of prisoners via New York September 17, 1864. Mustered out October 11, 1864. o Campaign against Mobile and its defenses March 18-April 12, 1865. o Siege of Spanish Fort and Fort Blakely March 26-April 8. o Assault and capture of Fort Blakely April 9. o Occupation of Mobile April 12. o March to Montgomery April 13-25. o Moved to Selma May 10, thence to Meridian, MS May 17. o Duty at Meridian and Vicksburg till November. o Mustered out November 24 and discharged at Chicago, Ill., December 6, 1865. Regiment lost during service 2 Officers and 56 Enlisted men killed and
mortally wounded and 1 Officer and 250 Enlisted men by disease. Total 309.
Francis Crye 7th Infantry, CO. H Missouri
UNION MISSOURI VOLUNTEERS o Organized at St. Louis, MO, June 1861. o Attached to Booneville, MO, to September 1861. o Fremont's Army of the West to February 1862. o Lexington, MO Dept. of the Missouri, to July 1862. o Unattached, Pittsburgh Landing, TN, Army of the Tennessee, to September 1862. o 4th Brigade, 1st Division, District of Jackson, TN, to November 1862. o 4th Brigade, 3rd Division, Left Wing 13th Army Corps (Old), Dept. of the Tennessee, to December 1862. o 3rd Brigade, 3rd Division, 17th Army Corps, to April 1864. o Maltby's Brigade, District of Vicksburg, MS to June 1864. o 1st Brigade, District of Memphis, TN, 16th Army Corps, to August 1864 (Veterans). o 1st Brigade, 2nd Division, 19th Army Corps, Dept. of the Gulf, to December 1864. SERVICE: o Moved to Booneville, MO July 1-4, 1861, thence to Rolla August 30
and to Syracuse, MO October 5-10.
Regiment lost during service 4 Officers and 52 Enlisted men killed and
mortally wounded and 2 Officers and 128 Enlisted men by disease. Total
186.
Solomon Crye Army, Infantry Maine
UNION MAINE VOLUNTEERS Dyer's Compendium contains no history for this unit. |
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JOHN CRYE and MARGARET CATHERINE SHIMMIN In previous issues of this publication I began a discussion of the children of John and Catherine Shimmin Crye. I have been trying to complete sharing information on this family so this article is continued from the previous issue. In John’s will he lists his children as William, David, John, James, Isabella, Sarah, Catherine, and Margaret. An additional son Hugh has been identified to me by LDS researchers but was not mentioned in the will. David (John, William, David) we will continue to discuss from the previous issue. As stated earlier, David was married to Elizabeth Tuck and had seven children we know of. William M.; John Alexander; Sarah Emeline; Hugh H.; Susannah L.; Joseph; and James.to be continued in the next issue |
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NO ABATEMENT OF THE DREAD FEVER |
The Death-List Still Long |
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Nine Deaths at Memphis |
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Men who during the late war won a justly earned reputation for bravery and unflinching nerve, upon seeing the first one of their dear ones hurried to the grave, gave up and wept like children. |
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An Abstract of the reports made to the Surgeon-General of the Marine Hospital Service. Washington, Aug. 17. |
Letters
Hi Anita, long time no talk, I have been really busy as per usual with my life I do not know if you remember me I was the one looking for William and John Crye. I live in England and I originally thought that the 2 of them had been in the Army. We were told that William had hit an officer and jumped ship and ended up in England. We now have 2 photos of John aged 71 and William looks in his teenage years. Both are dressed in Naval uniforms and the back of the photos says Annapolis, which I have now found, is where the Navy recruited from. Can you give me some advice as to how to follow this up?
Many thanks, Gill gillianmoss@hotmail.comNow for a quick reminder, William was born in 1860? correct, so this would put the photo taken about 1880 in Maryland? Am I correct on the dates? Yes!!
Hi Anita, You may remember I contacted you by email some time ago about John and William Crye. I have changed my email and can be contacted on the sj5603@aol.com from now on. I have more information and wanted to pass it on to you in case you have any info on the John I have here.
I have got hold of two photos. 1. John Crye a man dressed in the uniform of a seaman in a studio, he has a full white beard and on the back it says ' for Mrs. Hunter, taken 10th June 1870 John Crye aged 71 years 5 months and 20 days'. It is photographed by F.H. Hopkins Main Street ANNAPOLIS MN. He was born we think 21.12.1798.
The second photo is of a younger man dressed the same in the same studio and says on the back ' for Mrs. Lizzie Hunter then under that it reads Billy Fats ??? and on the side of the photo it reads wife. It is by the same photographer.
I have hoped to get so much information from these photos and its took so long to get them. I have to say I do not seem any further on with my search than two years ago.
I f you have any clues to solve my problem I would be grateful. Thanks Pam
Hello-
Every time I look up Crye and etc I always find a part of my line missing. I can trace it back to John Crye > William Crye > James Crye >James Hawkins Crye > Levi Crye > James Hawkins Crye (2nd Hawkins - my grandfather) and that’s were it stops. The record always show that the 2nd James Hawkins was married to a woman named Ronnie, which he was, but this would have been his 2nd marriage. He was also married to a woman named Jean Noble (my grandmother) in Carnegie OK and they had a few children - James Floyd Crye (my father) and he had me - James Floyd Crye Jr - and I have my boy - James Thomas Crye (2yrs old). Thanks for reading. Jim Crye Jim.Crye@radioshack.com