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AUGUST 1999
“FALL”
The Williamson Chapel Methodist Church, nestled in
the beautiful foothills of the eastern Tennessee mountains, was the site
of the June 12, 1999 Crye Family Gathering. Attendees spanned the
nation from east (NJ) to west (CA) and from as far south as FL and north
to MI, with three of us, who are now living elsewhere, having roots in
WI. In all, between seventy and eighty family members were there
from eleven states. The most senior was Miss Mamie Crye, of Maryville,
while the youngest was a mere seven months old, creating an age range that
encompassed four generations.
Anita Crye Green, of nearby Cleveland, TN,
orchestrated the event, with the help of her Blount Co. cousins, and her
daughter, MiniSu, who greeted everyone as they arrived and supervised their
registering in the Reunion Book. It wasn't long before the tables
in the Fellowship Hall were covered with the gifts of food each new group
brought to share for the noon meal.
People began arriving about ten in the morning
on a warm, sun-filled day, and from that time until the end of the afternoon
family members talked and shared information back and forth, forming and
re-forming conversational groups as the day progressed, some within the
cool Chapel, others out beneath the pleasant umbrella formed by towering
trees. Many of the Tennessee cousins already knew each other, of
course, but there were also new people to meet and get to know.
Just before noon, Anita called everyone together
in the Chapel to welcome us and to thank us for being there. It was
heartwarming to look around the crowded room and register that everyone
there was family - it truly made one realize we all are one. That
part of the gathering was brought to a close with a blessing for all attending
and for the rich repast of food we were about to enjoy. One comment
heard as the meal progressed was "Well, you can certainly tell that the
Crye's like food just about as much as they like talking!".
The Williamson Chapel had been chosen as the
site for the gathering as it is there that many of the Crye's have their
final resting place, including some of the very earliest ones
to Tennessee. There were thirty-five individuals
names on a listing Anita provided for us. The earliest
ones were John Crye (March 29, 1772 - January 20, 1859) and his wife Martha
Jones Crye (February 3, 1793 - August 21, 1859). Near them are to
be found their three sons, Elihu (October 31, 1819 - September 18, 1857),
Elias (January 17, 1825 - September 21, 1860) and John S., (August 17,
1828 - November 13, 1863) who was martyred during the Civil War.
Although the parents, John and Martha, were twenty years different in age,
they passed away within months of each other and they and their three sons
all went to their final resting places in a six year period, the three
brothers all being in their thirties. Left to mourn their parents
and brothers were four sisters, Nancy (b. 1827), Mahala (b. 1831), Rebecca
(b. 1833), and Josephine (b. 1836). Even with such a drastic family
loss, the legacy of John and Martha and their sons, Elias and John S. (Elihu
never married) continued, for some of their descendants were present that
warm June day.
Among the many conversations had that day
were several with three brothers, Joe, Charlie and William Duane.
(If I have not remembered your names correctly, please forgive me, and
I would like to be corrected. I did not make any notes at the time
and I can only trust that I am recalling accurately.) They raised
the question as to who the parents of John Crye (1772-1859) were.
What they grew up hearing was that John Crye and two of his brothers came
to TN from NC but they didn't know who their parents were. Since
I am a descendant of one of the brothers (William Crye) I was able to tell
them that the parents were (should this be a surprise?) John Crye and Catherine
Margaret Shimmin, who were the couple who came from the Isle of Man with
three children (Hugh, b. 1752, William, b. 1753 - who married Sarah Hagens,
and Sarah, b. 1757). The remainder of their children were born in
Chester County, PA, where they first settled after arriving through the
port of Philadelphia (Catherine, b. 1759, Margaret, b. 1761, James, b.
1764, David, b. 1770 - who married Jean Eliott, John Alexander, b. 1772
- who married Martha Jones, and Isabella, b. 1774). Hugh, the oldest,
married Elizabeth - no known last name. I have a land deed for them
in NC and believe they stayed there. At this point, I have no further
information about James, but certainly would appreciate getting anything
anyone can supply. That leaves the three brothers with known TN connections
as William, David and John Alexander. Several generations of the
ancestors of John and Catherine Shimmin Crye, who came from the Isle of
Man, both on the Isle of Man and back to Scotland and England are also
known, but can be talked about another time.
Having grown up in WI knowing about only three Crye's
(Cynthia Ann Crye Smith - my great great grandmother, Elizabeth Crye Bowman
and Jonathan M. Crye (who was my great grandmother's second husband, the
uncle of her first husband William Thomas Smith), all children of Joseph
(Annie) Crye, who was the son of William and Sarah Hagens Crye, it
has been an ongoing exciting revelation to find and meet so many cousins.
In closing, I want to thank Anita Crye Green again for pulling all of us
together for a memorable 1999 Crye Family Gathering. I look forward
with anticipation and pleasure to the next one, knowing there are so many
more family members to meet and get to know! Until 2001 - keep on
Connecting the Dots!
Written by Irene Morgan
HISTORY
of the
Williamson Chapel United Methodist
Church
Approximately in late 1890 or early 1891 a question
developed between two separate denominations, The M.E. Church South and
the Missionary Baptists over a certain tract of land that seemed to be
an ideal site for the erection of a new church building. Mr. and
Mrs. John Williamson, the owners of the land, couldn’t really decide to
which denomination to give the land as both appeared worthy of the gift.
To settle the dispute, a bargain was struck between the churches:
whichever denomination placed thier building materials on the site first
would receive the property. The Methodists, took their materials
to the site by wagon in the middle of the night and at dawn, when the Baptists
arrived with their load, the land was already in the possession of the
Methodists.
Fiction turned to fact on December 14, 1891 when
the property was officially deeded ot the Methodist Episcopal Church, South
by John and Lydia Williamson, both who are interred in the Williamson Chapel
Cemetery adjoining the church property. The trustees at the time
the property was deeded were: T.W. Cook, Robert Belt, Joseph Garner,
G.W. Ross, and H.F. McTeer. These men were prominent in the church
for many years, and most are buried in the churchyard. The church
was very fortunate to locate the original deed to the church wile in the
process of searching for old records to substantiate the history.
We are indeed fortunate to have in our possession
the majority of Sunday School records from 1893 to the present time.
The entry for July 16, 1893 was described as follows: Service conducted
by John Williamson. Opening song was “Watch For the Hour is Coming”;
5 teachers were present, 1 absent; 26 scholars present, 9 absent; 4 visitors
present; Scripture lesson: Acts 17:22-31; Subject of lesson:
Paul at Athens. The weather was listed as “Showery” and the service
was closed with singing the “Sweet Bye and bye” and by repeating the Lord’s
prayer. By the way, there was no collection taken for that Sunday.
Submitted by Teresa Crye Lowe
Teresa Crye Lowe is the daughter of Samuel Lawrence
Crye b1931, son of Walter A. Crye b1903, son of Sam H. Crye b1873, son
of John A. Crye b1853, son of Elias Crye b1825, son of John Crye b1772
who came to Blount Co. TN ca 1797.
DEATH NOTICES IN THE
Blount/Knox Co. TN papers
Crye, Joseph Oscar (Jake)
Age 73 of Route 7, Maryville, passed away Wednesday at Blount Memorial
Hospital. Member of Union Grove Baptist Church. Survivors:
wife, Mrs. Birsha Crye; 2 daughters, Miss Hazel Crye, Atlanta, Georgia,
Mrs. Jack Huskey, Maryville, son, Leon Crye, Greenback; granddaughter,
Miss Lea Crye; sister, Mrs. Carrie Young, Knoxville. Services 2:00
p.m. Friday at Miller Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Ralph Steele officiating.
Interment in Williamson Chapel Cemetery. Family will receive friends
from 7-9 p.m. Thursday at Millers of Maryville.
Crye, Walter Alexander
Age 77, of Route 9 Maryville, passed away Wednesday at Blount Memorial
Hospital. Survivors: daughter Mrs. Wayne (Martha Ann) Quisenbery,
Portsmouth, VA, sons, Samuel Lawrence Crye, Joe Lloyd Crye, Charles Henry
Crye, all of Maryville; 11 grandchildren; 3 great grandchildren; sister,
Miss Mamie Crye, Maryville. Funeral 2 p.m. Saturday at McCammon-Ammons
Chapel. Rev. Revell Williams officiating. Burial in Williamson’s
Chapel. Family will receive friends 7-9 p.m. Friday at the funeral
home.
Crye, John Shimmon
Age 87 of Rt 4 Maryville, passed away Saturday at Blount Memorial Hospital.
Husband of the late Mrs. Sally Evelyn Crye. Survivors; sons,
Lahmann Crye, Miami, Fla., Joe R. Crye, Richmond Ind., Maynard T. Crye,
Maryville; 7 grandchildren 8 great-grandchildren; sisters, Mrs. Ova
Fields, Maryville, Mrs. Thelma Huff of Fort Smith Ark. Funeral at
3:00 p.m. Sunday, Union Grove Baptist Church, Rev. Ralph Patton and Rev.
David R. Wood, Jr. Officiating. The body will lie in state 1 hour
before services. Burial in Church cemetery. McCammon-Ammons
in charge.
Crye, John Henry
Age 77 and Amanda Tyler Crye, age 77, Rt 9 Maryville passed away Tuesday
morning as a result of an automobile accident. Survivors; daughters,
Mrs. Lloyd (Anna) Gideon, Maryville, Mrs. Macy (Johnnie) King, Halsboro,
NC, Mrs. Bill (Betty) Koontz, Maryville; son, Clarence Crye, Maryville,
Ben E. Crye, Knoxville; several great grandchildren. Mr. Crye has
one half brother, Carl Crye, Maryville. Mrs. Amanda Crye has one
brother, Calvin Fate Tyler, Midland VA. Funeral 3:00 p.m. Friday
McCammon Ammons Chapel. Dr. Hayden Laster and Rev. James Kren officiating.
Burial in Clover Hill Cemetery. Family will receive friends 7-9 p.m.
Thursday at the funeral home. McCammon Ammons, Maryville, in charge.
W. Earl Crye dies in Cab:
Myers-Whaley Co. Secretary was active churchman. W. Earl
Crye, 49, secretary and office manager of the Myers-Whaley Co. died in
a taxicab at 8:50 p.m. yesterday as it was entering a drive near his home
on Riverside Drive.
A native of Madisonville, Mr. Crye had been with
the Myers-Whaley Co. for 17 years. He was active in church circles
and was a member of the Magnolia Avenue Methodist Episcopal Church, South.
Mr. Crye was a candidate for the Democratic nomination for County Court
Clerk in 1934.
He is survived by his widow; a son, William and
a daughter, Frances, all of Knoxville. A brother, John R. Crye, lives
at Hendersonville, NC.
The taxicab in which Mr. Crye was riding had attempted
to enter Mr. Crye’s driveway, failed, and then stalled in a driveway next
to it. The driver went for aid on his return found his passenger
dying. William Crye, the son, who had heard the taxicab, also arrived
as his father was dying. Death was attributed to a heart disease
for which he had been undergoing treatment. Squire Doyle King acted
as coroner, Deputies Lloyd Cruze and Ed Wyrick investigated.
Walter Clyde Crye Fatally Stricken
Walter Clyde Crye, downtown retail veteran and churchman,
was fatally stricken at his home at 3862 Speedway Circle, and pronounced
dead at 12:05 a.m. today at Baptist Hospital. He was 58.
Mr. Crye, was with Beaty Chevrolet Co. In recent
years, had seemed in fair health. Mrs. Crye said her husband complained
of something like indigestion. They had returned from a visit last
night at Rose’s with the family of a friend, J.W. Wyrick, who died Tuesday.
She said Mr. Crye collapsed in the kitchen. The body is at Rose’s.
He leaves his wife, Mrs. Margaret Burkle Crye; daughter,
Mrs. Robert N. Manning, New Orleans, and young son, Walter (Pete).
Others survivors include two sisters, Mrs. J.H. Huff, Fort Smith, Ark,
and Mrs. Jeff Fields, Maryville, and three brothers, Frank of Richmond,
IND; Shimon, Maryville, and Glenn of Knoxville.
Young Crye came here early from his Greenback home,
and was associated with most of the major Gay Street furniture stores.
He at one time was manager of Standard Furniture Co., Broadway and North
Central Street. He operated his own store on Chapman Highway for
a time.
In recent years the family has attended Fifth Avenue
Baptist Church where Mr. Crye was a choir member. He was a leader
at Deaderick Avenue Baptist for years, and as church treasurer and assistant
clerk, helped spearhead a building program there.
IN LOVING MEMORY
SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX
Name Death Date
Age
| Cry, Abbie | 08/1982 | 90 |
| Cry, Annie | 04/1994 | 69 |
| Cry, Betty | 02/1993 | 91 |
| Cry, Carrie | 08/1991 | 69 |
| Cry, Charles | 11/1989 | 70 |
| Cry, Cressville | 03/1971 | 67 |
| Cry, David | 03/1969 | 51 |
| Cry, Dock | 01/1966 | 75 |
| Cry, Dorothy | 07/1986 | 75 |
| Cry, Earma | 01/1992 | 77 |
| Cry, Edwin | 07/1989 | 70 |
| Cry, Evorn | 01/1994 | 75 |
| Cry, Faye | 08/1993 | 73 |
| Cry, Fred | 10/1982 | 82 |
| Cry, Gertie | 03/1980 | 79 |
| Cry, Gertie | 10/1997 | 100 |
| Cry, Ivy | 04/1969 | 44 |
| Cry, Jack | 10/1986 | 70 |
| Cry, Jean | 04/1979 | 69 |
| Cry, Jessie | 10/1981 | 84 |
| Cry, Jimmie | 07/1984 | 86 |
| Cry, John | 03/1970 | 51 |
| Cry, John | 12/1978 | 25 |
| Cry, John | 01/1986 | 70 |
| Cry, John | 11/1988 | 65 |
| Cry, Juanita | 10/1992 | 67 |
| Cry, Lantie | 10/1984 | 87 |
| Cry, Lewis | 12/1981 | 60 |
| Cry, M | 08/1971 | 65 |
| Cry, Ora | 12/1971 | 67 |
| Cry, Ora | 03/1989 | 74 |
| Cry, R. | 01/1990 | 54 |
| Cry, Sammie | 05/1991 | 67 |
| Cry, Sherman | 06/1997 | 84 |
| Cry, Shirley | 04/1984 | 30 |
| Cry, Taylor | 10/1971 | 62 |
| Cry, Willie | 11/1978 | 86 |
| Cry, Willie | 09/1988 | 68 |
SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS
| 001-001 New Hampshire | 303-317 Indiana | 501-502 North Dakota |
| 004-007 Maine | 318-361 Illinois | 503-504 South Dakota |
| 008-009 Vermont | 362-386 Michigan | 505-508 Nebraska |
| 010-034 Massachusetts | 387-399 Wisconsin | 509-515 Kansas |
| 035-039 Rhode Island | 400-407 Kentucky | 516-517 Montana |
| 040-049 Connecticut | 408-415 Tennessee | 520 Wyoming |
| 050-134 New York | 416-424 Alabama | 521-524 Colorado |
| 135-158 New Jersey | 425-428 Mississippi | 525&585 New Mexico |
| 159-211 Pennsylvania | 433-439 Louisiana | 526-527 Arizona |
| 212-220 Maryland | 440-448 Oklahoma | 528-529 Utah |
| 212-222 Delaware | 468-477 Minnesota | 531-539 Washington |
| 223-231 Virginia | 478-485 Iowa | 540-544 Oregon |
| 232-236 West Virginia | 486-500 Missouri | 545-573 California |
| 237-246 North Carolina | 449-467 Texas | 574 Alaska |
| 247-251 South Carolina | 575-576 Hawaii | |
| 252-260 Georgia | 577-579 District of Columbia | |
| 261-267 Florida | 580- Virgin Islands | |
| 268-302 Ohio | 581-585 Puerto Rico, Guam |
The Social Security Department has a method to their assigning numbers. The first three letters of the Social Security Number can tell you where your ancestor was when they first received their card. Not necessarily where they were born or such, but when they came of age to get their Social Security Card, the number assigned can track their location to a point.
CENSUS
Who does this family belong to?1880 Census of Tulare County, California - Township No. 5
Crye, Nelson J. White Male 56, farmer, NC-SC-NC.
Lydia wife 30, OHIO;
MILLS, Eliza stdt. 9; IA __ OH
MILLS, Joseph stson; 6; IA __ OH
CRYE, John son 3;
CRYE, Ben son 2;
CRYE, Marion son, b. Jan. 6/12.
ISABELLA CRYE & WILLIAM CRAIG
of Mecklinburg Co., NC
John Crye and wife Catherine Shimmon Crye had
a daughter Isabella who married William Craig in Mecklenburg. We
have no records of what happened to the girls in this family, but the boys,
William and David, are found in GA and David goes on to LA/MS. James
seems to head North to VA & IND. John came to TN and William
followed suit. John and Catherine’s girls married Walkers, Gorden
and Craig and apparently stayed in Mecklinburg Co. NC.
The following gives a record of what may have
happened to the girls. There are estate papers dated 1808 for William
Craig in loose records of Mecklenburg Co. It seems this is the William
who married Isabella Crye.
Mecklenburg Court Minutes, Book 5, pg. 1 (Oct.
session 1808) - Ordered by court that Isabella Craig, Thomas Walker and
Samuel Latham administer on estate of William Craig, deceased, who appeared
in court and was qualified and entered into bond with John Rea, Daniel
Carnes, & David Crye, securities in sum of $1,000 pounds.
Mecklenburg Court Minutes, Book 5, pg. 15
(Jan. session 1809) - Inventory & Amt. of sales & cost of the estate
of William Craig, Decd., returned by Isabella Craig, Samuel Lathem, &
Thomas Walker, administrators, to amt. of $1,943.31.
Mecklenburg Court Minutes Book 5, pg. 327
(Feb. session 1814) - settlement of estate of William Craig, deceased,
with administrators Thomas Walker, Samuel Lathem & Isabella Craig.
WILLS
Blount Co. TN Willbook #1 1799-1858
To all whom these presents may come or be made
known, Know ye that I Johnston Jones Senr of the County of Blount and State
of Tennessee, being weak of body but of sound mind and disposing memory
and calling to mind the mortality of my body do make ordain and constitute
this my last will and testament in form and manner following 1st it is
my will that my just debts and funeral expenses be paid out of my personal
estate
2nd I give and bequeath to my son John Jones
my wagon on his paying what remains due and unpaid of the price thereof.
3rd I give and bequeath unto my beloved wife
Nancy Jones the plantation whereon I now life, during her natural life
or widowhood.
4th In the death or marriage of my wife Nancy
Jones it is my will that the plantation whereon I now live be divided by
a line running as near the middle of the ledge of rocks that passes through
it as can be ascertained the Southern division of said land. I give
and bequeath unto my son John Jones and his heirs and assigns forever and
the North division of said land I give and bequeath unto my said son Johnston
Jones to him his heirs and assigns forever.
5th I give and bequeath unto my sons James
John and Johnson a lot of woodland lying in the knobe be equally divided
between them to their heirs and assigns forever.
6th I give and bequeath unto my daughters
Betsy and Rebdecca Jones a lot of land I own on Holston river lying between
them and at their death to my grandson William Jones, son of my son Samuel
to him his heirs and assigns forever.
7th I give and bequeath to my son Samuel Jones
and my daughter Martha Crye one dollar each to be paid out of my personal
estate.
8th the residue and remainder of personal
estate I give and bequeath unto my wife Nancy Jones and my daughter Betsey,
Rebecca, Nancy, and Jane Jones to be equally divided between them after
their making my daughter Frances McCulleys portion with what she has already
got equal to what Martha Crye got heretofore.
9th I do hereby ordain and constitute my sons
John Jones and Johnston Jones with my wife Nancy Jones executors of this
my last twill and testament hereby revoking all former wills by me made
and constituting this and this only my last will and testament in testimony
whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 7th day of sixth month
1831.
Johnston Jones (seal)
Witness (Ephram Lee present (James Allen (John Coulston
WILLS
Blount Co. Willbook page 243
I Susannah Tuck do make and publish this as my last will and testament hereby revoking and making void all other wills by me at any time made. First I direct that my funeral expenses and all my debts be paid as soon after my death as possible out of any moneys that I may die possessed of or may first come into the hands of my Executor. Secondly I give and bequeath to my daughter Elizabeth Crye, Thomas Tuck, Fanny Cox, Susan Rose, Prudence Brooks, Wilmath Copeland, Lucinda Oneal, one dollar each. Thirdly I give and bequeath to my daughter Ellen Tuck my cow and all my household and kitchen furniture with the exception of one large pot. Fourthly I give and bequeath to my son Harrison Brooks and his wife Patience one large pot and all my hogs and all of my land and proceeds of the same by the said Harrison and Patience maintaining of me during my life time. Lastly I do hereby nominate and appoint Francis M. Bowerman my Executor in witness whereof I do this my will set my hand an seal this 10 day of July 1849. Her mark Susannah X Tuck (seal)
Signed sealed and published in our presence and we
have subscribed our names hereto in the presence of the testator this 11
day of July 1949.
F. M. Bowerman
J.B. Jones
Willbook G, Mecklinburg Co. NC; 779 p237
James Godfrey, 10 April 1830, prob in Nov 1835, Ct. Knowing that uncertainty of human life, my plantation of 280 A is to be divided among my three sons William, Henry, and James as set out below. All my personal property, except my clothes, is to be sold, from the proceeds my just debts are to be paid, and the remainder divided equally among my three daughters viz: Swan, wife of William Spray, Elizabeth, wife of John Perdew, and Sarah, wife of Thomas Perdew. My clothes are to be divided among my three sons. I will to my son James the part of my plantation whereon he now lives adj John Spray, Doherty, David Crye, and Henry Godfrey; to my son Henry the part of my plantation whereon he now lives adj David Cry and John Spray, and to my son James all the remainder of my plantation. Exrs: Sons Henry and William. Witnesses: James Godfrey, Jurat, and A.H. Ingram. B. Oates, CCC
The reason for this will is I found a marriage on-line for Catherine
Crye, daughter of David Crye married James Godfrey on 7/7/1843, Mecklinburg
Co. NC and Isabella Crye, dau of David Crye, married Henry Smith, 10/04/1842
in Mecklinburg Co. NC.
My daughter, Michelle, told me of your website. In Toledo, Ohio
on October 12, 1954, I met Kathleen Crye, daughter of John and Nancy Crye.
I had the extreme good fortune of marrying Kathleen on July 13, 1957.
She was a wonderful wife and mother. In my 63 years she was one of
the very few people that I knew who believed in and actually practiced
Christianity! We had 2 daughters, Michelle and Jenny. Kathleen
unexpectedly died in April 1977. Her mother had passed away in June
1954. That left John and 9 children. John passed away in November
1957 at the age of 70. He and his wife came here by train, from,
I believe, Cleveland, TN early in the Great Depression. He was an
unskilled worker, however, he would take any kind of job to support his
family. I must compliment you on your website. I have been
sitting here for several hours reading through it. I was amazed to
find out that several Cryes fought with Sherman in his march through the
South. My great grandfather and his brother were also with Sherman,
however they had the misfortune of being captured and sent to Andersonville.
Many thanks for your web site and I shall visit it again.
James E. Saddoris
It would be pure speculation as to whether the John Crye in PA was ever connected to "our" John Crye. However, as I said in my last note, it was not uncommon for freed slaves to take the name of their former owner, if their relationship had been a good one. According to the 1790 PA census, there were 6,537 other free persons and 3,737 slaves, so they did have slaves in PA at the time. Certainly, it will be interesting to see if anything else turns up. The next time I go I can check later PA censuses and see if John Crye turns up again. Talk to you soon.
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Hey Anita,
It has been a while since we chatted. I'm George Crye down on
Leadmine Valley Road. For a while we chatted then my computer got
zapped in an electrical storm, and I was off line for about 8 months.
George and Alma Crye are my parents, Debbie, Sandy, and Tina are my sisters,
Thomas and Robbie are my brothers. My wife, kids and myself just
returned from and extended travel around the South for TVA and we visited
Edna Crye Lambert (Aunt Irene and my dad’s sister) while we were in South
Carolina. Her health is not good so I'm really glad we made the effort
to see her. I have her address somewhere. I will try to get
it to you because she would love your news letter so much.
GEORGE J. CRYE
http://members.tripod.com/~Archaeology/crye.html Check it out
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Reason #1 for thinking this is William & Sarah's son.
Birth date on stone is exact month and date listed in the Rev. War
Pension papers.
#2; 1850 finds both David's in different states. The other
David married a Holly _________. and had a family in Scott Co. MS and in
LA.