Crye-Cry
Family Newsletter
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Merry Christmas and
Happy New Year!!
I promised that I would start this family “connecting
the dots” by December and I am a little behind already. Let me make
a few introductions.
My name is Anita and I live in Cleveland,
TN. One day while doing some internet connecting at my local library
I discovered a program that allowed me to type in a name and the computer
would find where the majority of people with that last name lived, pin
point it on the map and give me an idea of how many live in the United
States. Well, Tennessee came up solid blue (full of Crye’s ) and
a small speck in Texas and Wisconsin. I was amazed.
Several years ago I purchased a book of “Crye’s
in the United States”. Yes, I fell for the oldest sell as I thought
it would give me some connections, but all it gave me was a telephone database.
I have used that to get a collection of names for this mail-out, but that
is all the book was good for. My desire for a central location for
information on our special and unique name began to be born in me.
Why, I ask myself, was there not a place where I could send queries, share
information, exchange information and maybe learn just where we all came
from.
This is the first “newsletter” and my request
to everyone is that you write me, sharing any story, tale, memory, copy
of marriage, Bible, birth, or death record that you are willing to share.
If you have a will, or know of one that you could copy or even a history
that someone in your family wrote for posterity reasons, please send this
to me via mail or email and I will share this with everyone and maybe we
can ‘connect all the dots”.
There are only a few of us, 250 with the last
name of Crye/Cry, but with relatives, I think we could come up with much
to share.
Happy hunting and I look forward to hearing
from each of you with what history you might know. This newsletter
is free and will be published three times a year. April, August and
December. If information and stories come in we may got o four a
year, but that is in the future. Today, I will concentrate on Issue
one, volume one.
Welcome to the Crye/Cry family newsletter,.
I earnestly request your input, queries, information, and help.
Anita
WILLIAM CRYE
William Crye applied for Revolutionary pension
while he was living in McMinn County, TN where he drew a pension on the
1832 list. He was 80 years old when he made his application, making
him born about 1752/4. He was a native of the Isle of Man, but came
to America when he was a child and was reared in Chester, PA. He
moved to North Carolina and was volunteered under Capt. Hagan in Mecklenburg
County, NC. He volunteered again under Capt. John Drummond in Greenville,
SC. Other officers under who he served were Co.. Thomas Neel/Noel
and Col. Ezekial Polk under whom he fought the Indians. He was, for
a time, at Prince’s Fort and then at Wofford’s Fort. Next, he was
in a company of horse under Capt. John Foster, Col Henry Hampton and General
Sumter and was assigned the duty of searching for Tories. In 1780
he served under General Gates. After leaving North Carolina he lived
in South Carolina, Hale County, GA, and in Tennessee. He died August
30, 1835. He married Sarah Hagan, April 8, 1779. She drew a
pension in Bradley County and died February 8, 1844. I found on the
internet that the annual allowance was $29.16 and the amount they received
was $72.90. A page from their Bible was enclosed with her application
showing their marriage date. (And the marriage of their son, William
Crye, Jr. To Elizabeth Barker on August 11, 1822).
William Crye and Sarah Hagan, daughter of Captain
William and Mary Hagen, had twelve children that we are aware of.
In the abstract of the Revolutionary War Pension files the following children
are listed.
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William, Jr born May 19, 1782 Hugh born November 5, 1784 Joseph born March 5, 1789 Sarah born September 12, 1791 Mary born January 20, 1794 John born June 11, 1796 Isabel born August 10,1798 James born January 7, 1801 David born February 5, 1803 and Johnathan born September 7, 1806 |
In the pension papers mention is made
that the soldier’s brother, John Crye, made affidavit on December 18, 1839
in McMinn County, TN. There was a John Crye in Blount/Monroe/McMinn
Counties, TN during that time.
I have received information from Larry
Crye about a short history he received from his great uncle, Frank Crye,
who is said to have had a great memory, especially for detail. In
those several pages “Uncle Frank” lists three brothers, and possibly a
fourth who came to America from Ireland (?). three of the brothers
were John, Elias, and Elihu. I am certain the fourth was William.
A connection of mine in Blount County, TN
told me that John Alexander Crye, born 1772 married Martha Jones and had
10 children. Both are buried at Williamson Cemt in Blount County,
TN. I think these two Johns are the same one. The paper from
Larry Crye states that John, Elias, and Elihu are all buried in the Williamson
Cemt. There are two stones that read:
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1/17/1825 9/21/1860 |
10/31/1819 9/18/1857 |
John and William are pretty well guaranteed
to be brothers because of John signing the affidavit for William in 1839.
The article I received also placed two additional brothers, Elias and Elihu
as brothers to John. It seems like the birth ages of these two, 1825
and 1819, compared to John’s birth in 1772, and William who married Sarah
Hagen being born in 1752, are a little spaced, but I only have questions
here. Do you have the answer? Are you a descendant from Elias
or Elihu? These could be the brothers to John, mentioned in the notes
from Larry Crye.
Taken from the Blount County Cemetery Book,
Williamson Cemt. We find.
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March 23, 1772 January 20, 1859 |
The article from Larry mentions that John Crye,
born 1772, had a son named John Shimmon Crye, born 1830 and died 1863 as
a martyr in the Civil War. He states that the name “Shimmon” came
from his grandmother. In another correspondence, from Earl Crye of
New Mexico, he states that John’s grandmother’s name was Margaret Catherine
Shimmon, daughter of John Shimmin of Kirk German, Isle of Mann.
The will of John, b 1727, father of
John b 1772 states:
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Being weak in body, I
give my wife Catherine a third of the profit from my land together with
the (use of the?) dwelling house I live in, the barn and other outbuildings
during her life.
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Now, the will gives us the names of his wife
as Catherine, sons David, John, James and William. He also lists
daughters as Isabella, Sarah, Catherine, and Margaret. Reason has it that
if John and William were born on the IOM, then this John, being their father,
was also from there. He must have married his wife there as his children
appear to have been born there.
So, we have our start. John Crye,
born 1727 on the IOM married Catherine Shimmon and had eight children
who are listed in his will.
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William b 1752/4- d 8/30/1835 m Sarah Hagan 4/8/1779 David m Jean Elliott 1/12/1797 Mecklenburg Co. NC marriages John James Isabella m William Craig 1794 Mecklenburg Co. NC marriages Sarah m Andrew Walker Catherine m Joshua Gordon Margaret m Thomas Walker |
Let’s take a look at the will for a few moments.
John (b1727) leaves something to each of his children including his wife.
However, he left to his son William and daughter Margaret, wife of Thomas
Walker, each a Spanish milled dollar. Several people that I have
spoken to claims that John (b1727) is trying to make a statement.
Either he was disowning them by giving them only a dollar or they were
well enough off and didn’t need the inheritance as much as the others.
I do know that John Walker (father to Thomas and Andrew Walker) left his
complete estate to son Thomas. See the will which follows:
| John Walker, May 8, 1804, probated in July 1904 court
Being very sick and weak of body, I give to my son
Andrew Walker and to my daughter Nancy Walker $1 each; to my daughter Jane
Hoey $50, if my estate will admit after payment of my debts, otherwise
$1; and to my son Robert Walker $1. I will to my son Thomas Walker
all the remainder of my estate, both real and personal.
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Any thoughts on this? Please share!!!
WILLS
Mecklenburg County
North Carolina
There are three additional wills listed in Book B,
abstracts of NC Wills. One is for James Crye, one for Samuel Crye
and one for William Hagen.
They are as follows:
| Will #1 | SAMUEL CRY. 31 July 1803, prb in Jan 1804 Ct by Samuel Adams.
Being sick and weak, I give to my sister Sarah half of the land left to me by my father, all my household and kitchen furniture, and my feather bed and furniture, and to my brother John I give my rifle gun and wearing apparel. It is my will that my two horses, plantation tools, a loom and a table, and all other articles not mentioned, be sold and the proceeds used to pay my debts with any residue going to my sister Sarah. Exrs: Sister Sarah and Jacob Ormond. Wit: Samuel Adams, John Thompson, and Shared Gray. Isaac Alexander, CMC. |
| Will #2 | JAMES CRY. 3 Mar 1794, prb in Oct 1803 Ct.
Being sick and weak in body, I will that my land be equally divided between my sons John and Samuel; I give to my daughter Sarah four cows and two heifers, a third of my sheep plus five ewes, my bay horse, two feather beds and furniture, and half of my pewter and iron pots with the other half going to my son Samuel. I give to my son John a cow and a heifer, and half of my swine. My loom and gear and large wheel are to be considered the common property of my sons John and Samuel and daughter Sarah as long as they live convenient to one another. Should one of them move away these items are to be sold and the money divided among them. The remainder of my personal property is to be sold and the money arising divided among my two sons and daughter, and the remainder of my estate I give to my son Samuel. Exrs: Sons Samuel and John Cry. Wit: James and John McCorkle and Jacob Armour. |
| Will #3 | William Hagins of North Carolina, Mecklenburg
County, being weak in body...to wife Mary Hagains, one horse Jack, Negro
Friday, at her marriage or decease to the property of my beloved son John
Hagins which negro I leave to support the family: likewise to my
wife one Negro girl Juliet; my three sons, Joseph Hagins, William Hagins,
and John Hagins; to son Joseph one negro fellow April; to son William Hagins,
one negro girl Nance and the first child she has at a year old to be given
to my daughter Sarah Crye; to sons Joseph, William and John the land whereon
I now live in the Indians bounds...to daughter Mary Bastin (?), negro girl
__________;
Wife Mary, son Joseph and friend William Potts, Exrs: August 28, 1790, witnesses Robert Crocket and Robert King, proved October session 1790 Will book D. Pp 51-52 CR 065.801.16 |
This will goes along with the fourth brother William
Crye who married Sarah Hagan who came to Tennessee from NC after the Revolutionary
War, settling in McMinn Co. TN and dying there.
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| 1790 Census Records
Alegheny Co. Penn John Crye
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Burke Co. NC
Cry, William 20201 30110 |
Burke Co. NC
Crye, William 41111 2101 four males 0-10 two females 1-10 one male 10-16 one female 10-16 one male 16-25 one female 26-45 one male 26-45 one male over 45 |
| Salsbury Dist. Meck, Co. NC
John Crye 3 males 16 and up 1 males 16 and under 2 females |
Mecklenburg Co. NC
Cry, David 10010 10010 01
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Mecklenburg Co. NC
Crye, John 1101022 110001 one male 0-10 one female 0-10 one male 10-16 one female 10-16 one male 26-45 one female over 45 two males 60 and over and possibly two male slaves |
| Salsbury Dist. Meck, Co. NC
James Crye 3 males 16 and up 1 males 16 and under 2 females |
Mecklenburg Co. NC
Cry, John 00111 00101 01 |
Mecklenburg Co. NC
Crye, David 31010 1101001 three males 0-10 one female 0-10 one male 10-16 one female 10-16 one male 26-45 one female 26-45 and possibly one female slave |
| Salsbury Dist. Meck, Co. NC
William Crye 1 males 16 and up 3 males 16 and under 2 females |
Mecklenburg Co. NC
Cry, John 10010 30010 00 |
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Cry, Samuel 001000 001000 |
Tennessee Records state that John Crye was living in Blount County by 1820 and in 1830 he is listed there with family.
BLOUNT COUNTY TENNESSEE MARRIAGES
| Crye, Alice L. to Hatcher Samuel A. 11/03/1893 | Crye, Granville to Kizer, Maggie 12/22/1902, |
| Cry, Annie to Cunningham, Charles L. 08/23/1896 | Cry, Betty to Woods, W.H. 01/31/1900 |
| Crye, Caldona to Crye, William A. 10/19/1905 | Crye, Elias to Williamson, Nancy J. 08/21/1851 |
| Cry, Elizabeth to Carpenter, Elisha 01/12/1841 | Crye, Ella to Scott, William H. 01/15/1898 |
| Crye, George W. to Huffstetler, M.E. 09/01/1880 | Crye, H.H. to Crisp, Susan 11/25/1877 |
| Crye, J.M. (bride) to Tedford, W.H. 01/17/1884 | Crye, John to Bist, (Best/Bast) Sarah C. 09/30/1857 |
| Crye, John A. to Tucker, Carolyn 01/15/1871 | Crye, Joseph M. to Best, Evaline 12/21/1884 |
| Crye, Josephine to Sloan, Madison, J.C. 09/21/1875 | Crye, Mahala C. to Anderson, Thomas 10/09/1857 |
| Crye, Malenia E. to Williamson, James 01/17/1850 | Crye, Nancy to Carpenter, Samuel T. 11/20/1851 |
| Crye, Rebecca R. to Scott, Thomas E. 07/27/1854 | Crye, Samuel H. to Baumgardner, Mattie 01/05/1845
(this was done by J.O. Crye, JP) |
| Cry, Sarah to Lee, Jonathan 07/27/1843 | Cry, Sarah C. to Armstrong, W.A. 03/19/1868 |
| Cry, William to McInturff, Melissa 2/23/1896 | Crye, William to Robinson, Mary J. 11/21/1867 |
WHAT WILL YOU NAME YOUR CHILD?
The most popular name for a Crye/Cry child is John, 2nd is William, 3rd is Charlie, 4th is Joseph, 5th is Mary, 6th is Albert, 7th Carl, 8th Ernest, 9th Esther, 10th George, 11th Hazel, 12th is Helen, 13th is James, 14th is Jennie, 15th is Lena, 16th is Ralph, 17th is Roosevelt, 18th is Ruth, 19th is Ada, 20th is Amanda, 21st is Arch, 22nd is Bennie, 23rd is Bobbie, 24th is C., 25th is Cass, 26 th is Charles, 27th is Clatie, 28th is Claude, 29th is Clayton, 30th is Curtis, 31st Daisy, 32nd Dave, 33rd David, and 34th Dean.
Who was the Abraham Crye who witnessed a will in Burke Co. NC August 2, 1813 for Jacob Settlemire?
1870 and 1800 Census lists heads of households only:
I have listed the whole families when I had them
in my files. If you are interested in any of these with a copy of
the original census record please write and I will get this for you and
mail it back.
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| Cry, David 35; Celia 40; William 11; Mary 9; Martha 8; Andy 6; Ellen 4; Jos 1; Bradley Co |
| Cry, David 63; Elizabeth 54; William 27; John 25; Hugh 19; Susan 15; Joseph 12; James 9 Cumberland Co |
| Cry, Edward 21; Susan ADCOCK 17; Anna M. 16; Adam 12 Coffee Co. |
| Cry, James 60; Mary 70; Sophia 40 Bradley Co. |
| Cry, Nancy 20 Bradley Co. |
| Cry, William 80; Elizabeth 58; James 26; Joseph B. 24 McMinn Co. |
| Cry, Elias 32; Nancy J. 24; John A. 5; William A. 2 Blount Co. |
| Cry, John S. 31; Sarah C. 22; George H. 1; Josephine 21 Blount Co. |
| Walker, Hiram 38; Marian 34; Betsy 33; Joanna 69; James A. 12; Crye, John 11 Blount Co. |
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Soldiers from East Tennessee
| CONFEDERATE | FEDERAL |
| Crye, H.C. Pvt K. Co. 43rd Inf | Crye, Henry C. Pvt H. Co. 10th Cav |
| Crye, James Pvt B. Co. 16th Inf BN | Crye, Hugh Pvt H Co. 4th Inf |
| Crye, James Pvt I Co. 3rd Lillards MI | |
| Crye, Joseph B. Pvt H. Co. 59th MI | |
| Crye, Jonathan Capt F. Co. 62nd MI |
Virginia Military Records
“An effective return of Capt. William Henry’s Company
of Minute Men at Northhampton court-house in Virginia, Feb 17, 1776”.
Listed among the men is John Crye.
In the next issue, April 1998, I will be sending a questionnaire
for you to fill out. I am not asking you to give up your family secrets,
but I am asking for their names, dates and time table of when they moved
and traveled about. This will help track who is related to whom and
where they went and when. I can’t thank you enough for your participation.
I know this will be a help to us all.
“Connecting the dots” Anita
LETTERS
Dear Ms. Green
My sister just called me to say you had contacted
her my email. I am so excited to think you are starting a “Crye/Cry”
family newsletter.
Please let me know about it and for sure I want
to subscribe. Rachel Crye was our great-grandmother. She was
born in Indiana (I think). Then the family moved to Wisconsin when
she was a child. Her father was born in North Carolina and his name
was John Crye.
Patricia
Ms. Green
I received your card a couple of weeks ago regarding the
Crye family. I am also working on the family history and would be
very interested in your newsletter
Ida
Anita:
Please send forms as to what you want to know about our
Crye family. Also, does this Crye newsletter cost something?
If so, please inform.
Thank you, Ms. Crye
Response: I am so glad you are willing to share and help me with this endeavor. The cost is nothing and I will be so glad to send you forms to fill out on your family, thank you, Anita.
QUERIES
Please send all responses for queries to
Anita Green
1555 Lewis Street,
Cleveland, TN 37311
I will pass them along to the researchers.
1. Looking for information on JAMES CRYE, son of John & Catherine, born 4/25/1755 New Castle, Delaware.2. CRYE, married Lydia Mills in Tulare County CA, 12/24/1875. What family does he belong to and what are the children’s names.
3. Looking for any descendants from ELISHA or ELIHU CRYE who came to Blount County about 1820 and are buried in the Williamson Cemt.
4. Looking for anyone related to the JOHN CRYE who raised a family and lived on Sand Mountain, AL at the turn of the century. Who is he related to? Where are his descendants? And What is his lineage?
5. Who were the parents of Clayton Crye from Wisconsin?
6. I have information that the CRYE name is Manx and records at churches on the Isle of Man go back to the 1200’s. My grandfather was JAMES SCOTT CRYE and great grandfather was JAMES HAWKINS CRYE. Do you have any more information on these two men?
7. I received a letter from a CRYE in Australia. He stated that the CRYEs came to Australia in the 1800’s. They stayed there about 2 years and the oldest son stayed in Australia, but the rest of the family moved to the USA. Can anyone Clarify who these CRYE’s are?
8. Searching for birth records for my great-grandfather JOHN CRYE who is in the 1850 Indiana Census. He says he came from Virginia. Was this a temporary stop? Was he born there? On some census records he says he was born in North Carolina. He is married to Edney/Adney with 7 children in 1850. Any help would be appreciated.
I understand that there is a “Crye Family Reunion”
some time in the late summer in Georgia. Does anyone else know of
this and who I can contact about it?
Have you checked the internet for information to send to those
who may not have and “email” connection? If you are finding anything
on the “net” email me at agcrye@bellsouth.net. Or, copy the information
and mail it to me at 1555 Lewis Street NE. I can then put it in the
newsletter.
Looking forward to hearing from more
of you.
Anita